Realni Aikido

[Jinen Kym]

I always enjoy these Aikido demonstrations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8mZo3Qn4ww

[andrewp]

I like dance to.

[Chrislg]

I think Aikido has a lot to offer and this young man has very sharp technique. It is a pity the training methods and some people attracted to Aikido leave a lot to desire, because the system itself can be quite effective in the right hands. Ie David Brown, Joe Thambu etc.

[andrewp]

I think Aikido has a lot to offer and this young man has very sharp technique. It is a pity the training methods and some people attracted to Aikido leave a lot to desire, because the system itself can be quite effective in the right hands. Ie David Brown, Joe Thambu etc.

I am not doubting the ability of Aikidoist....but any dancer can replicate those moves....but a judoka's moves as inj the other video that Kym produced on needs years to replictate.

[Chrislg]

I don't know that any dancer could replicate that precision timing - unless they were fighting to music perhaps. Aikido has technique that is every bit as difficult as judo, or more.

[flyfire]

A very good friend of mine is a black belt in Aikido, he's now more into Yoga an studying Ayuverdic medicine, but when we used to spar, i used to have a hard time in the clinch with him. Give him a tiny opening and I'd be unbalanced and swept/thrown etc. I have a lot of respect for Aikido because of him and the way he trains - very realistic.
The only problems he had with me (major ones lol) was closing the gap without getting his legs kicked out underneath him, and if he threw me but followed me to the ground haha

[Chrislg]

I also train with a 2nd dan (actually my BJJ is also a 2nd dan in aikido, so you two 2nd dans) in aikido on Saturday mornings after BJJ. He has just come back from overseas, so we have had a bit of a break, but I learn a lot from him. What is more, an aikido master has shown me some stuff that really impressed me. He was old with a bung hip and had no trouble displacing us young bucks and our shoots, low kicks etc. What is more, he did it all with one technique. Yes, one.
One of the beauties of aikido is its minimal techniques. They have many ways to lead into the same basic throws and immoblisations from all different techniques. Aikido and the Dynamic Sphere explains this well. The techniques are quite simple and work on the same concepts, so are easy to learn from a theoretical standpoint, but the execution and entries take a lot of work to master. I can only hope to get some sort of skill.
Like I said before, aikido bags a lot because it is frequently practiced by the sort of people who could not fight a cold, and the lack of resistance in training leaves practitioners unprepared for the realities of street fights. However, I could learn a lot from an aikido master.

[flyfire]

Nice one Chris! I didnt realize Professor Leo is a aikido black belt as well (BJJ, Capoeira, Aikido, what next?!?!?). Respect.
I recall you telling me about that visit, and you showing me that technique in brief. I've forgot now though haha, need a refresher!

WAAAAIIIIT a minute, I cant fight a cold either...

[Jinen Kym]

I don't disagree that the failings are generally the practicioner. I notice a tremendous amount of practice in breakfalling goes on in styles like aikido and hapkido for the safety aspect and I think these uke's make things look great. However I'm sure there are backup elbows, strikes and a bit more of a roughing up comes into play where necessary if the practitioner gets less compliance.

[andrewp]

I don't know that any dancer could replicate that precision timing - unless they were fighting to music perhaps. Aikido has technique that is every bit as difficult as judo, or more.

Really....hmmm....dancers learn new choreography very quickly....a lot quicker than most learn kata....some ma's just dance through kata....but a dancer, after about a week, could look better than someone who has danced katas for years. Don't underestimate dancers.

[flyfire]

Dancers tend to get a lot of bad press from 'martial artists', but I'm betting my bottom dollar many dancers have more fitness, core body strength, balance, perceptual and kinesthetic awareness and other physical attributes applicable to self defence than 80% of so-called martial artists out there.
I remember a couple that used to train Wing Chun at Leong's academy: both from Aus Dance theatre I think, awesome body movements etc. Picked up the long fist and other athletically-based forms in a minimal amount of time. They were also taught the thai-style round kick, teeps and knees and boy could they hit with power once their bodies made the necessary adjustments.
Another example: my mate Chan, who is a capoeristra (not dancing i know, but you get my drift re balance etc), never trained a day of WuShu in his life, while in Melbourne 2 years ago, decided to watch a WuShu comp. He then enrolled in the next one, winged some freestyle forms based on what he saw, won the whole thing (against guys training and competing in WuShu for years) and was invited to train in China for a year by the Chinese judges.
I think I've mentioned in a thread before that I regularly do some of the warm-ups my wife used to do for belly-dancing: awesome for joint mobility/flexibility etc. Saved my lower back (not my neck haha) from damage sustained by BJJ sparring. And no, Chris, no performance for you my friend!
ERrr... was this thread about Aikido?!?

[andrewp]

Dancers tend to get a lot of bad press from 'martial artists', but I'm betting my bottom dollar many dancers have more fitness, core body strength, balance, perceptual and kinesthetic awareness and other physical attributes applicable to self defence than 80% of so-called martial artists out there.
Chris, no performance for you my friend!
ERrr... was this thread about Aikido?!?

Errr....what you said....yeah I have to agree.

I'd like to see your moves too....right Chris....not the ones on the mat either.

[Chrislg]

And no, Chris, no performance for you my friend!

Fine. Be like that.

[Shawn]

I thoroughly enjoyed this demo. I thought his moves were precise and clean! He had great timing, excellent body awareness and good timing. This is BY FAR more practical than most Aikido demo's I've seen and I think the guy should be given due credit.

I think Aikido is an extremely fascinating and for the most part, effective art. This is a good example.